The Change Your Mindset Podcast

Welcome to the Change Your Mindset podcast, hosted by Peter Margaritis, CPA, AKA The Accidental Accountant. Peter is a speaker, expert in applied improvisation and author of the book 'Improv Is No Joke, Using Improvization to Create Positive Results in Leadership and Life'. Peter's new book, Taking the Numb Our of Numbers: Explaining & Presenting Financial Information with Confidence and Clarity will be published in June 2018.

S4E15. The Difference Between Significance & Success, with Lauren Schieffer

What is your definition of success? What is your definition of significance? And what’s the difference between the two?

Lauren “The Colonel’s Daughter” Schieffer is returning to the show to answer these questions and more. In S4E7, she talked about choosing respect over drama. You can read all about her background here

Most people are programmed to chase success. It’s outwardly focused, with the weighty titles, flashy accomplishments, accolades, and parking spaces. Significance is inwardly focused. It’s about being of service, first, and has nothing to do with how much power or money a person has. True leaders, significant leaders, build people up to be the next generation of significant leaders.

The generic efficiency-focused, profit-motivated leadership of the 20th and early 21st century is what has led us to the situation we’re in today, a raging pandemic, a weakened economy, and one of the most divisive political environments in modern history. 

Productivity, profits, accumulation of wealth, and market share are not inherently bad on their own. But, when they become the sole focus over the wellbeing of the employee base and the community that they serve, the model becomes destructive.

There are nine essentials of significant leadership:

  1. Understand your own value
  2. Treat all people with respect
  3. Act with integrity at all times
  4. Open your mind to new possibilities
  5. Craft a vision
  6. Communicate respectfully
  7. Lead by example
  8. Celebrate the results of others first
  9. Work for your replacement

Lauren’s father, the Colonel, always said, “There’s no reason to be nervous when your heart is in service.” If we all try and focus on being in service every day, on following the nine essentials of significant leadership, we can raise the significance of our presence and impact on the world and people around us. Which do you aspire to, success or significance?

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S4E14. Empathy

What do you think about when you hear the word “empathy?” As a leader do you feel like you are empathetic with your team — or are you sympathetic? And why should you care?

In the book “Humans Are Underrated,” author Geoff Colvin states, “In this next wave of leadership evolvement, the most important skill that leaders must have is empathy. Women will have more leadership opportunities than men because they are much more empathetic than men.” He’s right.

Many people confuse empathy with sympathy. Sympathy means understanding that someone else is suffering, while empathy is the ability to experience someone else’s feelings. The former is more cognitive, and the latter is more emotional.

Showing empathy requires vulnerability. Being vulnerable means putting yourself out there for others to see. Too often, leaders see vulnerability as a sign of weakness. I disagree; being vulnerable is a sign of humanity, and by doing so, you create stronger human connections. And creating connections is what great leaders do.

Leaders can increase empathy by replacing assumptions with a sense of curiosity that opens up to empathy. Curiosity is a good thing. It helps us ask questions, gather more facts and information, and eliminate our assumptions.

The better you treat and understand the people you serve through improv leadership, the more empowered they become. The ability to truly listen to another person and be able to empathize with them is showing gratitude, respect, and support. That costs you nothing but time — and that is time well spent.

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S4E13. Become a Rainmaker in Your Business, with Ed “The Rainmaker” Robinson

Do you think of yourself as a salesperson? Do you subscribe to the notion that we are all in sales? Would you like to become a “rainmaker” for your organization or firm?

Ed “The Rainmaker” Robinson has been a business growth advisor and sales trainer for over 30 years. He’s consulted, coached, and spoken to thousands of audiences and hundreds of businesses in more than 30 countries and multiple industries. Ed has helped facilitate many organizations’ growth, leadership, business development, and sales with projects to improve performance and productivity. His company provides business growth strategies and leadership skills that transform professionals into rainmakers. He refers to himself as a recovering CPA.

Ed started working in the oil and gas industry at Union Oil doing corporate accounting before starting his practice. He believes that technical skills will only get you so far in life — brought on from his experience working with professional service groups. His company tasked him with bringing in clients and making the firm money, and despite his technical competency, it was a shock to his system. But it’s not as shocking if you have a simple strategy to help you make it happen.

Ed shows entrepreneurs a five-step process to help them have a balanced business practice. Those five things include having specific goals, a marketing strategy, a business development strategy, customer service, and keeping your pipelines full. Business development is where you “make it rain,” and RAIN is an acronym for: build Rapport, Asking specific questions, Implement solutions, and Negotiate next steps.

We are all in the people business. We must be cognizant of what our customers need from us. Reach out and find what they need not just from a business perspective but a human perspective. If you can help them, even outside of the personal-finance realm, you’ll earn goodwill worth far more than what you’re charging.

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S4E12. Change: The Xerox Management Story

There are only a few things in life that we are confident of — death, taxes, and change. Do you look at change as an opportunity or something you would rather not experience? Do you expect that the new system installation will go smoothly or that there will be several bumps in the road? How many times have you had to change during this pandemic? As a leader, how do you manage change?

Change comes at us in two ways – designed or imposed. Designed change is when we know that change is going to happen. Imposed change is when we have no say in it. But did you know that when change occurs, it can be both designed and imposed? The perspectives of the creator of the change and the receiver of the change are very different. When you have top-down decision-making from the C-Suite, their view is that they have designed this change for the good of the organization. 

For example, the C-Suite team has decided to restructure the organization because of poor performance and significant market share loss. When leadership announces restructuring to the organization, the rest of the organization has no prior knowledge because executives did not consult them. This is both imposed and planned change. 

But imposed change pushes down on the organization and leads to employees feeling stress, anxiety, and fear. This kind of imposition can have a tangible negative effect and does not create a highly productive workforce.

Have you ever heard of Xerox? Yes, Xerox. In 2000, The CEO, Richard Thomas, resigned from a position held for less than one year. During Thomas’s tenure, he had restructured the sales organization unsuccessfully, and the company was losing market share to its competitors. 

In 2001, Anne Mulcahy stepped in as CEO, tasked with turning the organization around quickly. Ms. Mulcahy worked for Xerox for 24 years, and for 16 of those years, she was in sales. When Thomas resigned, she rose to president, then Chief Operating Officer, then CEO. 

According to the article titled “Anne Mulcahy: The Keys to Turnaround at Xerox” from 

Insights by Stanford Graduate School of Business, she was inheriting “a company on the verge of Chapter 11 bankruptcy.” The company had over $17 billion in debt and had recorded losses in each of the preceding six years. A recent reorganization of the company’s sales force had not gone according to plan. Customers were unhappy, and the economy had started to falter. On top of that, Xerox was in a protracted investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Mulcahy was under a lot of pressure from the board to turn this company around quickly.

However, Mulcahy viewed her position as the Chief Communications Officer and emphasized listening to customers and employees. “When I became CEO, I spent the first 90 days on planes traveling to various offices and listening to anyone who had a perspective on what was wrong with the company. I think if you spend as much time listening as talking, that’s time well spent.”

Mulcahy believes that effective communication consists of honesty and confidence, especially during a corporate crisis. She states, “When your organization is struggling, you have to give people the sense that you know what’s happening and that you have a strategy to fix it. Beyond that, you have to tell people what they can do to help.” She gave people a choice: you can get to work and fix the problem or leave the company. It’s that simple. 

An employee asked Mulcahy to describe what Xerox would look like when she restored it under her plan. Most CEOs would have crafted a new vision statement for the new Xerox. Not mulcahy. She created a fictitious Wall Street Journal article describing Xerox in the year 2005. “We outlined the things we hoped to accomplish as though we had already achieved them,” said Mulcahy. “We included performance metrics — even quotes from Wall Street analysts. It was really our vision of what we wanted the company to become.”

When the plan was developed and rolled out, Mulcahy spent a lot of time soliciting feedback from and communicating with stakeholders on the turnaround. This was her way of getting buy-in — she told her stakeholders that this what you shared with me, and here is how your feedback will change our company’s path. This is effective, 360-degree communication. 

Sharing her story with the students and faculty at the Stanford University Graduate School of business, one student asked her what keeps her up at night. She replied, “I think I am more motivated by fear of failure than a desire to succeed. My experience at Xerox has taught me that crisis is a very powerful motivator. It forces you to make choices that you probably wouldn’t have made otherwise. It intensifies your focus, your competitiveness, your relentless desire to attain best-in-class status. I want to do everything I can to make sure that we don’t lose that now that we’re back on track.”

The purpose of sharing this story is that this is an excellent example of improv leadership. Improv leadership consists of the following principles — respect, trust, support, listen, focus, adapt, and the philosophy of ‘Yes, And.’ 

Mulcahy demonstrated improv leadership initially when she instituted her 90-day listening tour. As she stated earlier, “listening to anyone who had a perspective on what was wrong with the company. I think if you spend as much time listening as talking, that’s time well spent.” By asking the questions, listening to different perspectives, not getting defensive, and being focused and present in each conversation, something magical happened. The respect and trust for Mulcahy from those interviewed exponentially grew. When you listen to understand a conversation, park your ego and agenda, and focus on the other person’s thoughts and ideas without interrupting, you get respect and trust in return. She wasn’t telling them her idea on how she was going to fix the problem. She wanted to know their thoughts, and by doing so, she empowered them. 

When was the last time you actually listened to understand when you were soliciting thoughts and ideas from another person? When you do this, you are gathering bits and pieces of critical information to solve the problem at hand. Too many C-Suite leaders are afraid to solicit thoughts and ideas from others in the organization because of the myth that you need to have all the answers and solve all the problems. I have always said, “the collective knowledge outside of your office far exceeds the collective knowledge inside your office.” Collaborating with others and working as a group solves problems. 

When you collaborate, you are, in essence, co-creating with the team and/or the organization. By doing so, you have adopted the ‘Yes, And’ principle and will keep conversations moving forward positively, all the while adapting to what’s thrown at you and the team. Your role as a leader in the organization is to continually develop the people, their talent and potential, and their ability to adapt to change. This is empowerment. This is effective communication. This is thriving amidst change and rising to even more tremendous success and achievement. This is Leadership In HyperDrive — Powered by Improv.

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S4E11. Burn Ladders & Build Relationships with Dr. Alan Patterson

Have you been successful in climbing the corporate ladder? What have you sacrificed during your ascension?

Dr. Alan Patterson has more than three decades of international consulting experience in change management, leadership development, and executive coaching. In 2006 he formed Mentoré, a consulting practice that focuses on aligning strategy, organizational structure, job responsibilities, and skillsets to major business shifts. His expertise has been tapped by many global and national businesses and organizations, including Anheuser-Busch, BioGen, Federal Reserve Bank, Johnson & Johnson, Hewlett-Packard, and the US Navy.

Three years ago, Dr. Alan learned more about how he could take his work for live workshops and webinars online for general distribution. During that journey, someone asked, “When you think about telling your story, who’s the enemy?” His spontaneous response was that the enemy was the corporate ladder. It’s an illusion, a mirage. It’s something people strive for that doesn’t exist. The steps required to try and climb the ladder inevitably lead to not feeling like you’re good enough.

When you start at the beginning of your career, promotions are pretty by-the-numbers. You achieve more of your objectives year after year, and it’s more or less guaranteed. But eventually, as the hierarchy narrows, you reach a point where people are getting promoted ahead of you, which leads to wondering what you didn’t do that’s causing you to be left behind. There are so many other alternatives to climbing the ladder, and believing that it’s the one path to personal satisfaction is a complete myth.

The alternative path is what Alan calls “burning the ladder.” It’s not about putting yourself at the center of the universe, accumulating accomplishments, and putting them together as a package to sell yourself. It’s about putting others in the center of your universe, helping them be successful, and watching the opportunities come to you.

Contrary to what you think and have had reinforced for most of your life, it’s not all about you. When you live and work in service of others good things can happen.

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